It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - The "Implication"

t91 · 5.8M views · 2013 · 1:58

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN uses it as a joke reference when discussing coercion, implied threats and consent in power imbalances.

What it is

A two-minute scene from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia in which Mac and Dennis discuss the unspoken implication of going out on a boat. It is the full scene, unedited.

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Cites sgentle · 2017-07 · on “Shedding Light on the “Black Box of Inappropriateness””

I've seen a few comments on this and articles like this to the effect of "so any time you proposition a woman it could be assault?" and I think it's worth responding to that idea in general. Yes, there is generally an expectation that men initiate romance, and that is an unfair burden both on men (who have to do the propositioning) and women (who have to decline unwanted propositions). For game-theoretic reasons, this is difficult to change, but it is changing slowly. In the mean time, restrictions on how to initiate disproportionately affect men, and a lack of restrictions disproportionately affects women. Even more so in situations of gender imbalance (look up "Petrie Multiplier" for more

Cites kolpa · 2018-06 · on “The Ornithologist the Internet Called a Murderer”

This is a subtle point. The court ruled that you can't be guilty of threatening to hurt someone unless you actually intend to hurt them. But if you play in the grey space, by intending to create fear of harm without (in the vein of It's Always Sunny's infamous "because of the implication" [this video] ), that's apparently legal. Presumably because to some extent the law is not intended to directly prevent crime, but only to deter crime by punishing it. At a social level, it may make sense to "sacrifice" a few people to murder in order to maintain a free society while detering most murders by punishing completed murders, but that's cold comfort to victims and potential victims, and not particularl

Cites Peritract · 2023-04 · on “U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence”

Your partner shouldn't be pressuring you into having sex; that's wrong of them, and you deserve better. Coerced consent isn't consent [1]; the fact that there are different levels of violence and pressure involved in some cases of coercion doesn't mean that the less-obvious levels are okay. [1] [this video]