Why is there no equation for the perimeter of an ellipse‽

Stand-up Maths · 2.7M views · 2020 · 21:05

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Why Hacker News recommends it

Cited as an accessible explanation of why some simple shapes lack neat exact formulas.

What it is

Stand-up Maths explains why the perimeter of an ellipse has no simple closed-form equation, showing the infinite series and presenting approximation formulas.

Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2020 to 2023.

What Hacker News said

Recommends ars · 2022-10 · on “An old Encyclopaedia Britannica is a work to cherish”

See here for more on that: [this video] the info on calculating the actual value starts at 14 minutes (it's an infinite series).

Cites pas · 2020-12 · on “After centuries, a seemingly simple math problem gets an exact solution”

There are neat formulas, but those are just approximations, as an exact (closed form) is provably not possible. [LINK] [this video]

Cites jerf · 2023-07 · on “Breaking Superconductor News”

Something smaller than may help you grasp this idea: [this video] There are things we can characterize to any desired degree of accuracy but that e don't get cute little equations out of... and some of those things are so simple they've been staring you in the face since middle school and you just didn't ever notice their absence from your formula sheets. This is not the exact same situation being described but it's a similar thing. Being able to put a complex system into a computer and arbitrarily manipulate it still doesn't mean we can extract some simple explanation. On the other end of the scale, see all the AIs coming out. They're 100% computer artifacts with theoretically no mystery in them