The War on Sensemaking, Daniel Schmachtenberger
Why Hacker News recommends it
Recommended to people interested in propaganda, misinformation and how to improve public discourse.
What it is
Daniel Schmachtenberger discusses why the information ecology is damaged and what healthy public sensemaking would take. The conversation ties this to the meaning crisis and to improving discourse.
Recommended by 2 HN commenters across 2 different months, 2019 to 2023.
What Hacker News said
Strong rec cdstyh · 2021-06 · on “Types of propaganda, propaganda techniques, and propaganda strategies (2017)”
The War on Sensemaking is a great series of videos on propaganda and the information ecology in the modern social media driven world. I highly recommend it. [this video]
Strong rec cdstyh · 2021-06 · on “Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice”
I recommend you watch this lecture. It may change the way you think about people that question the narrative. [this video]
Recommends undershirt · 2019-10 · on “Reason Won't Save Us”
> “Courage is the solution to despair. Reason can provide no answers.” –Ernst Toller (First Reformed, 2017) I’ve felt the despair of this article for a time (and the quote above gave me some peace), but some recent hope came from Daniel Schmachtenberger[1]. He postulates that our conception of debate in our current information ecology selects and optimizes for bias. He refers to the Hegelian dialectic as an alternative to debate—of an earnest synthesis from understanding both a thesis and its antithesis, resolving paradox with a higher order model. I’ve heard this described as steel-manning[1] another’s argument to find its signal (as opposed to straw-manning the noise). But Schmachtenberger
Cites cf141q5325 · 2022-12 · on “Ask HN: Best books read in 2022”
Thanks for the resources, especially the Bonhoeffer theory and the nice feedback. I do appreciate it. I can also only return the favor, being able to come to an agreement on such points is really good news and i found this quite beneficial as well. The difficulty of it (conflict in speech is just so much more easy and enjoyable) is why i have so high hopes for technology. Because you wont just help with understanding but being more easy to understand. Which means getting more control about how you frame stuff without just trying to influence your conversation partner. I am not so optimistic about education beyond a base level though, getting a grip of framing stuff, and not just reacting, is
Cites cf141q5325 · 2023-09 · on “As We May Think (1945)”
First off, thanks for mentioning Karl Popper and the media literacy theory. Will have to look into that. I wish you the best here. Have been thinking about the issue as well and have been drifting more and more in the direction dealing with human error / aiding human thinking by just raising the bar abit without trying to find completeness and focusing on acceptability. Fixing the stuff that should be easiest. So looking at the description of errors and and how to communicate them in a sensible way. A minimum consensus based safety focused approach with capsuled complexity seems to be the way to go. A few perspectives you may or may not have heard of and find interesting in this context. In