The Marvel Symphonic Universe
Why Hacker News recommends it
HN recommends it as an insightful explanation of why modern film scores sound alike, with lessons beyond Marvel.
What it is
An Every Frame a Painting video essay asking why Marvel films lack memorable musical themes. It blames temp tracks and directors scoring to filler music.
Recommended by 6 HN commenters across 6 different months, 2017 to 2026.
What Hacker News said
Strong rec open-source-ux · 2022-03 · on “Ask HN: Why are some soundtracks of movies so powerful?”
The YouTube channel Every Frame a Painting has an excellent video about music in films. Why are some scores so memorable while others are easily forgotten? The Marvel Symphonic Universe (2016): [this video] You don't have to have seen any Marvel movies, the insights are universal. (Also worth watching the follow-up video: Hollywood Scores & Soundtracks: What Do They Sound Like? [LINK] )
Strong rec testdelacc1 · 2026-06 · on “I design with Claude more than Figma now”
There was this video which showed film directors doing something similar. They film their scene with “filler” music previously used in some other film. Then they hand the scene to the music director and ask a score for it, which forces the director to make something very similar to the filler music. It then makes all film music sound similar. This was only possible due to the “productivity boost” of digital editing pipelines, which allowed directors to edit immediately after filming. [this video] from 5:50 on but the whole video is a masterpiece.
Recommends lentil_soup · 2018-05 · on “Filmstro: Royalty-Free Music”
In that vein, I recommend this video about the Marvel Universe music and the general use of "temp music". It touches a lot of the points you mention: [this video]
Recommends jstx1 · 2022-02 · on “Ask HN: Why are memorable melodies less common nowadays in movie soundtracks?”
Temp music and the idea that music shouldn’t be noticeable in a film. Every Frame a Painting has a great video essay on this - [this video]
Recommends vanderZwan · 2022-05 · on “Vangelis has died”
That's more due to how movie scores are produced these days. Every Frame A Painting explains it really well in this video on why you can't remember any music from Marvel movies: [this video] (well, up until they made that video, at least)
Recommends Litost · 2022-06 · on “Game Design Mimetics (Or, What Happened to Game Design?)”
This statement might be more poignant than you think, there's an interesting video here comparing Marvel with Star Wars and James Bond in terms of how memorable any of the music is, because it's almost all cookie cutter: [this video] I think all the points here have value, I've definitely played some really good games recently including some that were mentioned above, but I definitely think there's a general risk averseness because AAA game studios are too big to experiment so a lot of games are rehashed sequels or incremental "improvements" (as in the movie industry or whatever's in the music charts). I'd put some of the blame of this on the outcome bias, things are judged on whether the outcome
Cites buzzybee · 2017-05 · on “Making a Neural Synthesizer Instrument”
It's not purely the sampling that's doing it to Hollywood: In some fashion, it's the heavily-derisked blockbuster formula to blame, and technology comes along for the ride. Tony Zhou's Every Frame A Painting [0] offered a take on how the tendency is to work very closely to a temp track and then ask for something identical, which of course can only get you increasingly similar sounds. Dan Golding responded to this by adding some nuance, noting that temp tracks have always been in use, so the answer has to be a little more complicated, and he points back to the technology. [1] I would say that the technology is just a piece of the puzzle; you can order in a different type of sound and get it,
Cites tinyrick2 · 2018-04 · on ““Close to tears, he left at the intermission”: how Kubrick upset Clarke (2017)”
The YouTube channel Every Frame a Painting talked about the usage of temp music in movies on one of its video, titled Marvel Symphonic Universe: [this video]