Frank Zappa on Crossfire

Ed Jordan · 2.7M views · 2006 · 21:18

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN commenters invoke it in free speech and censorship debates as a classic example of a articulate defense of free expression.

What it is

A clip of Frank Zappa appearing on CNN's Crossfire in 1986, debating censorship and copyright. Zappa argues his position against record labeling and content restrictions.

Recommended by 0 HN commenters across 0 different months, 2011 to 2013.

What Hacker News said

Cites parfe · 2011-03 · on “Neil Gaiman: Why defend freedom of icky speech? ”

I don't have a platitude for why we need to defend speech. My only argument has ever been that my icky speech today is your essential speech tomorrow. By the time you think something needs to be censored is beyond the line of where you could still rationally discuss the idea. If you think the government should suppress an idea the only reason must be that you personally cannot reasonably consider the concept. Banning a subject because you cannot fathom talking about it means you must be willing to impose your internal and personal morals on others, by force if necessary. [this video]

Cites joydeepdg · 2012-07 · on “Miles Davis – blind listening test”

On the contrary, anything unscientific is great. I am a musician myself and I find proof based scientific discussions very claustrophobic at times. All I am trying to say is, in this case, the article is a bunch of opinion from a Jazz musician about fellow Jazz musicians and bands. How does this fit in with other HN threads? I would say that something like Frank Zappa on censorship [1] [2] is much more suited to HN discussion than this link. [1] [LINK] [2] [this video]

Cites ihsw · 2013-08 · on “CloudFlare and Free Speech”

The article has a very interesting statement: > A website is speech. It is not a bomb. There is no imminent danger it creates and no provider has an affirmative obligation to monitor and make determinations about the theoretically harmful nature of speech a site may contain. Replace website with song and provider with record label , and you'll have a very familiar conversation from nearly 30 years ago: Frank Zappa on Crossfire, [this video] The comparison is loose, but it's eerily reminiscent.