Fight Club - The Recall Coordinator's Formula
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Cited whenever a thread shows a company weighing cost against safety or customer harm.
What it is
A two-minute clip from the film Fight Club in which the narrator, a former recall coordinator, explains the formula companies use to decide whether a recall costs more than paying out settlements.
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Cites cletus · 2021-09 · on “Pope Francis and Other Christian Leaders Are Calling for Bold Climate Action”
If you think about this, this too is just an economic motive. The cost of non-compliance (fines, prosecution, etc) multiplied by the risk of that happening is less than the cost of compliance, so it happens. People and companies break laws all the time when it's cheaper to do so. I can't help but think of Fight Club [1]. [1]: [this video]
Cites AtlasBarfed · 2021-10 · on “Car accidents cause death, injury and trauma. Why do we shrug them off?”
[this video] The economic benefit exceeds the human loss of life. Of course no economist SAYS that because one of the big lies economics runs away from is that the value/cost of a random human death is about the same as the value of, say, paving over a swamp estuary or, say, the ocean becoming acidic to the point we lose photoplankton and will kill off all aerobic creatures in the world. If economics can't properly value something that doesn't impact the budget/spreadsheet within a couple months, it pretends it doesn't exist and has zero cost. Heck, proper economics will happily assign negative value to humans. Old? Sick? Debilitated? It's GOOD that person died! But economists don't talk about th
Cites mabbo · 2022-12 · on “The exploding Ford Pinto of 1973 (2021)”
I'm reminded of the delightful opening scene of "Fight Club" where the narrator explains that his job is to apply "The Formula". [this video]
Cites netsharc · 2025-01 · on “I'm semi homeless and Google's forced update on the Pixel 4a ruined it”
It's kinda insane that they can't do a "undo last commit; git push; tell the CI/CD to push a new OS release" procedure. But there's a probably Fight-Club-esque math (1) there that make it "If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.". Congrats Google, your procedures have made you an overweight gorilla that isn't agile enough... (1) [this video]
Cites serf · 2025-08 · on “Hyundai wants loniq 5 customers to pay for cybersecurity patch in baffling move”
>Other manufacturers treat defects in their products by doing a recall and wearing the costs of their mistake. No. Other manufacturers treat defects with recalls after analyzing the fiscal prospect of doing so, and determining whether or not state/regional laws require them to do it. Here's one of the "not that wrong" scenes from Fight Club to better explain[0]. [0]: [this video]
Cites collingreen · 2025-11 · on “GitHub: Git operation failures”
> Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply it by the probable rate of failure, B, then multiply it by the result of the average out of court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one. [this video]
Cites Mawr · 2025-11 · on “Over-regulation is doubling the cost”
None of this is true. A company left to their own devices will optimize for maximum profit at the cost of literally everything else. Every cost of their business that's possible to externalize will be externalized. Every corner will be cut in the name of marginally better profits. For example, you say lawsuits are costly. To a company, that's meaningless. The only question is, is the cost of a lawsuit greater than the money saved cutting corners? If not, it's better to kill people and deal with the lawsuits: [1]. Moreover, companies are still run by people, and people have biases. Most notable of which is the short-term thinking bias that results in companies irrationally optimizing for shor
Cites hcazz · 2026-01 · on “Open-source self-driving for 325 car models from 27 brands”
[this video] Not sure you understand how "The Formula" works. The profit generated by adding this feature will outweigh the cost of any resulting accidents that they take liability for. A less pessimistic way of phrasing it is that within the boundaries they've defined, their self driving system is so much better than a human that they're willing to assume responsibility for crashes deemed "at-fault" while using the system. Not intentionally trying to compare that with other automakers, but Mercedes is the only "you can buy now" vehicle (ignoring robotaxis/Waymo/others) that assumes liability with those capabilities. Until other automakers provide that legal guarantee, they're parlor tricks at be