steve jobs on why xerox failed

Kumar Saurav · 29K views · 2016 · 2:55

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN cites it as the standard explanation of how finance and sales take over a company, applied to Boeing and other declining firms.

What it is

A short clip of Steve Jobs explaining why Xerox failed, arguing that product people lose out to sales and marketing people once a company becomes dominant.

Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2024 to 2024.

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Strong rec aslatter · 2024-01 · on “Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?”

I keep this clip open in a browser tab so I can go back to it from time-to-time: [this video] It's the same basic message from Jobs, but this time about Xerox.

Cites szasamasa · 2024-02 · on “EU to hit Apple with first ever fine in €500M penalty over music streaming”

well in a sense the right word may be oligarch... US companies control all OSs but linux... they are surely working together with NSa and the US government which in turn let them become extremely powerful monopolies... what are oligarchs? people who play together with strong governments... Ithink the upper management of these US companies not just become oligarch-rich from soaring stock prices but the actual thing oligarch enjoy is power which is not 1 to 1 money in the economical sense stock companies have shareholders, simple employees and management and the goal is to maximize profit... totally legit and apple is seemingly doing this by crippling the web because using apps from taxed app

Cites szasamasa · 2024-02 · on “It’s Official, Apple Kills Web Apps in the EU”

I do not use these but I find windows after linux bloated so it may have something to do with microsoft engineers? (teams) spotify can choose its strategy, you can choose apple music native app (I guess there is something like this? I rarely listen to music but on youtube) Idont know about teams but my partner has ipad and iphone and I hear often how teams and microsoft products behave bad on iHardware... it may have to do with the love these two big corps show towards each other :) maybe you have to buy a windows laptop for teams too, that is the walled garden philosophy you actually seem to protect :) my partner now uses my laptop where I have a windows which I did not totally purged becau

Cites jmyeet · 2024-10 · on “Boeing CEO says the company must fundamentally change”

This is really a systemic problem and I'd honestly be shocked if it's even possible for Boeing to dig themselves out of the hole they've dug for themselves. The core problem is the market demands ever-increasing profits and at a certain point the only way to achieve that is to cut costs. Executive compensation won't ever be cut. The management consultants will never be fired because they provide plausible deniability for the executives should anything go wrong. The inevitable result here is that the financial people end up running the company, not the engineers. The old Steve Jobs Xerox quote [1] applies. No, Boeing wasn't technically a monopoly, but in a duopoly where it's supported by the