Navy pilots recall “unsettling” 2004 UAP sighting

60 Minutes · 1.4M views · 2021 · 6:45

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Why Hacker News recommends it

Cited in UFO threads as a short, first-hand pilot account worth hearing, even without papers or data.

What it is

A 60 Minutes segment in which Navy pilots Dave Fravor and Alex Dietrich recount their 2004 encounter with the 'tic tac' UAP during training with the USS Nimitz group.

Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2021 to 2022.

What Hacker News said

Strong rec pmarreck · 2022-03 · on “Flight characteristics of anomalous unidentified aerial vehicles (2019)”

Can you just... please... at least just watch the damn 7-minute video (shit, if you watch it at 1.5 speed it's only 5 mins!), because as it turns out, not all truths can be reached via scientific papers, with some truths you have to actually listen to people talking about their subjective experiences (more pedestrian cases in point: kids claiming they are trans or gay despite no obvious mechanistic explanation for it, women claiming they were sexually assaulted, guys claiming that blueballs exist (did you know there's no actual evidence for that and that the predominant explanation is "testicular torsion", which is insane, as that condition is an extremely rare medical emergency, according t

Cites creedleshrump · 2021-05 · on “Radar data confirms: USS Omaha was surrounded by swarm of UFOs”

Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich was with Fravor and also saw the tic tac: [this video] Also would be surprised if military pilots were allowed to carry their cell phones with them, nor would it likely be advisable to take a phone video while you're piloting a fighter jet.

Cites throwaway29303 · 2021-06 · on “The UFO Sightings Don't Impress This Physicist”

For one thing, first-person accounts, which are notoriously inaccurate to begin with, don’t provide enough information for an empirical investigation. Scientists can’t accurately gauge distances or velocity from a pilot’s testimony: “It looked close” or “It was moving really fast” is too vague. What a scientist needs are precise measurements from multiple viewpoints provided by devices that register various wavelengths (visual, infrared, radar). That kind of data might tell us if an object’s motion required engines or materials that we Earthlings don’t possess. It's true that first-person accounts are sometimes inaccurate, but in the Nimitz case, we have, I believe, eight pilots in total who

Cites dandotway · 2021-10 · on “The Obsessive Life of the Fisherman Who Discovered the Loch Ness Monster (2020)”

Ahh, so if the monster exists then it must, like the porpoises, only rarely travel to Loch Ness from the ocean, so that few sightings per century can be expected. I thought all alien craft sightings were BS until four separate Navy pilots came forward to say they all saw that white tic tac in 2004. And three of the four pilots have done television interviews, most recently this 60 Minutes one: [this video] If not for the link between Loch Ness and the ocean I'd think the existence of the monster could probably be ruled out as attention seeking liars. But now that we know porpoises sometimes make the rare trip from the ocean, we can't 100% rule out the monster never does. Does Dochfour Weir have 2