DEF CON 18 - Moxie Marlinspike - Changing Threats To Privacy: From TIA to Google

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Why Hacker News recommends it

Strongly recommended as a formative talk on privacy, especially for its argument that voting with your feet fails as a privacy strategy.

What it is

Moxie Marlinspike's DEF CON 18 talk argues that privacy threats have shifted from centralized state databases like TIA to corporate data collection by companies like Google, despite wins in strong cryptography and decentralization.

Recommended by 3 HN commenters across 3 different months, 2017 to 2022.

What Hacker News said

Strong rec CodeMage · 2017-05 · on “The Blockstack Browser: A Gateway to a New, Decentralized Internet”

Four years ago, Moxie Marlinspike offered a good explanation of why this "vote with your feet" approach doesn't really work, at DEFCON 18. His talk is called "Changing Threats to Privacy" and I highly recommend watching it: [this video] If you're impatient, you can skip the first 10 minutes and 40 seconds: [this video]

Strong rec losvedir · 2022-01 · on “My First Impressions of Web3”

I am (or was?) a huge Moxie Marlinspike fan, and highly recommend this video[0] of his from Defcon several years ago. It was formative in my understanding of privacy and security. That said, something here really doesn't add up. Being a huge fan, I took note several years ago of MobileCoin, a cryptocurrency, which listed him on the home page as one of the team.[1] Or, see this Wired article about it[2]. The big selling point, as I remember it, of MobileCoin (per the name) was that it was actually feasible for small clients (i.e. phones) to meaningfully take part in the network. But he's since been scrubbed from the site, as far as I can tell. MobileCoin was added to Signal, much to the chagr

Recommends karangoeluw · 2019-06 · on “Facebook lawyers explain to a judge that privacy on Facebook is nonexistent”

Moxie Marlinespike (Openwhisper Systems, Signal) makes a good argument for why that doesn't work [this video] . Recommend watching the whole talk.