March 2020: Dr. Anthony Fauci talks with Dr Jon LaPook about Covid-19

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN uses it as a flashpoint in arguments about early pandemic mask guidance, with critics citing the headline and defenders pointing to the shortage context.

What it is

A short 60 Minutes clip from March 2020 in which Dr. Anthony Fauci tells Jon LaPook there is no reason to walk around wearing a mask. The full interview includes his concern about mask shortages for healthcare workers.

Recommended by 1 HN commenters across 1 different months, 2020 to 2022.

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Recommends Aunche · 2021-01 · on “18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated”

Fauci was never dishonest. That was Trump trying to shift the blame to him. Watch the original clip: [this video] He literally said that the reason he is advising against masks was because he was worried about shortages.

Cites abc-xyz · 2020-11 · on “Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.”

Have you forgotten that we couldn't buy masks or other medical equipment for months because of China, and everyone, including WHO, Fauci, Obama, etc. were advising people against using masks due to shortage? - January 14, WHO: Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳( [LINK] ) - January 31, Trump suspends travel from China: Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus( [LINK] ). A move condemned by many, including WHO and Biden. - February 1, Biden: We ar

Cites Sohcahtoa82 · 2020-11 · on “CDC advises Americans not to travel for Thanksgiving”

I think the context is given at the end of the video. I think Fauci was trying to avoid a mask shortage that would have affected healthcare workers who absolutely need the masks. The problem is that he downplayed the masks too much, and now his words are being used against him. EDIT: The video was in another comment. [this video]

Cites pen2l · 2021-02 · on “Brendan Eich on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]”

> I think Fauci fell a beat behind the narrative marching band in March when he said no to masks for the general population, and so had to make up a dumb story in June about how he nobly lied to save PPE for frontline workers in March. Consider this interview, done early March, in which Fauci argues against masks: [this video] . You don't even have to read between the lines because he explains his reasoning bluntly: "Exactly, that's the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for people [(healthcare workers)] who really need it." He never at any point thought masks were ineffective. When he did say so in March as you see from this interview, he said it because he was concerned about shortages

Cites pen2l · 2021-02 · on “Brendan Eich on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]”

> Fauci did not argue against civilian masking solely based on shortages. No, he did. You linked the same clip I linked, except minus the 20 seconds where he reveals his reasoning. Please refer to slightly longer version: [this video] I agree it wasn't a great thing to play down masks to the extent he did, but as someone else pointed out, explaining the nuance of the situation to 350 million people is a tough task. Remember the toilet paper situation? Imagine if he'd sold masks as the solution, people would try to get their hands on one at all costs, they would not have faith in home-made cloth masks, they'd want what doctors are wearing because those are the ones that really work (is what they'd

Cites Aunche · 2021-03 · on “Yes, experts will lie to you sometimes”

>Personally, I think experts should err on the side of humility in public communications — and that means telling the truth, even when it’s complex. That's what Fauci did. The problem is that nobody bothered to actually listen. In the video where he was allegedly lying, he said that he thinks that masks are ineffective at preventing you from receiving covid and that they should be saved for healthcare workers and people who are sick. [this video]

Cites Aunche · 2021-06 · on “Divisive Covid ‘lab leak’ debate prompts dire warnings from researchers”

>Last year they consciously lied that masks were ineffective to preserve them for health workers. I'm tired of hearing this meme. A lie implies they were hiding their intentions, but leadership was transparent about saving masks for healthcare workers from the start. It's just that nobody bothered to listen, and now people want someone to blame for not listening. Here is a video from Fauci from early March: [this video] In it Fauci says that masks are primarily ineffective at preventing you from contracting disease and effective at preventing its spread. At the time, it made sense to save the masks for healthcare workers and sick people.

Cites amerkhalid · 2021-08 · on “The Coronavirus Is Here Forever”

Here[1] is Dr. Fauci talking about how masks are mostly ineffective. Only at the end of the video, he agrees with the host that if everyone wears masks, it can lead to shortages for healthcare workers. 1: [this video]