Infant girl with whooping cough

Mayo Clinic · 4.2M views · 2013 · 2:24

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Why Hacker News recommends it

Used in vaccination arguments to show what pertussis does to infants too young to be vaccinated.

What it is

A short Mayo Clinic clip of an infant in intensive care with severe whooping cough, held by her mother. It shows the baby's violent coughing.

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Cites CydeWeys · 2017-04 · on “Why Did My Patient Leave Me?”

> The counter point (to that convenient strawman :) ) is that the chances of someone getting ill are not as easy to determine and that that someone might have gotten ill anyway. Cause and effect are a lot more distant in that case and much harder to relate to each other. This is wishy-washy logic. There are real evidence/data-based scientific studies that show the specific measurable increase in infections of various diseases based on how many members of the population refuse the available vaccines. There have been flare-ups in California with dozens of people becoming infected (and some dying) when herd immunity is lost. This is not hypothetical; it is simply fact. Similarly, it's hard to s

Cites thaumaturgy · 2018-04 · on “Free speech cannot be sacrificed to strike fake news”

> Instead, he's raising the subtler (and I think reasonable) issue of whether despite the societal benefit there may be individuals within the population for whom the risk/reward ratio is reversed. FWIW, this is a variant of a debate tactic known as "just asking questions" (on rationalwiki) or the "loaded question" (wikipedia). I won't accuse ~Varcht of doing this intentionally, because I don't know them well enough to assume bad faith, but the end result is the same: the question, appearing innocent enough, is based on false premises and derails the conversation. It's especially common coming from people who have been misinformed on some controversial subject and have developed vague doubts

Cites VikingCoder · 2018-11 · on “Utah man dies from rabies, the first in the state since 1944”

You asserted, "you need most". That says you know what percentage of the people I am in contact with need to be vaccinated for some level of what you think I would consider to be "acceptable risk." So, do you know what that percentage would be, for various vaccines? And how did you define what my acceptable risk would be? Because I think you must have an opinion on both of those things, if you're willing to advise me that "I need most." Since you're favoring an economic slant to this discussion, how, exactly, did you decide what I need? > You make the ultimate escrow with your own body, since you risk infection as well. People can be carriers of diseases, and not become ill from them. This n