Trump and Stoltenberg get into tense exchange at NATO summit
Why Hacker News recommends it
HN cites it as evidence in arguments about European dependence on Russian gas and NATO spending, especially after Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine.
What it is
A Washington Post clip of President Trump and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg in a tense exchange at the July 2018 NATO summit, where Trump criticized Germany's reliance on Russian energy.
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Cites __blockcipher__ · 2022-02 · on “Twitter based map of Russian troop movements”
[this video] If Trump is Putin's puppet why did he publicly criticize Germany for being overly reliant on Russian pipelines for their energy needs?
Cites ComradePhil · 2022-03 · on “Nord Stream 2 declares bankruptcy”
To those who are being exposed to this only because of recent events, here's what has happened before all this: - 2011 - Nord Stream 1 nearing completion and Nord Stream AG starts thinking about two more lines (which would later be named Nord Stream 2) - 2015 Jun - Decision to build Nord Stream 2 was made [LINK] - 2017 Apr - Financing agreements signed [LINK] - 2018 Jan - Germany officially grants permit [LINK] - 2018 May - US diplomats start talking about sanctions [LINK] - 2018 Jul - Trump scolds NATO General Secretary over European energy relations with Russia [this video] - 2019 Jan - US ambassador to Germany threatens sanctions [LINK] - 2019 Dec - US sanctions Nord Stream 2 [LINK] - 2020 Dec
Cites TMWNN · 2022-05 · on “Finland will seek NATO membership immediately”
Don't forget Merkel. There are still people that say that Merkel was always against German dependence on Russian gas but could not do anything about it. For 16 years! There is more "evidence" that Merkel is a long-term Russian intelligence asset, recruited from her youth in East Germany,[1] than that of Trump being the same. One guess on which claim is incessantly repeated by the bien-pensants of the chattering classes. Bonus: Trump and Stoltenberg argue on camera (< [this video] >). Who turned out to be right? Who turned out to completely, totally, 100% wrong? [1] Something else never talked about is how her parents moved from West to East Germany when she was a baby
Cites TMWNN · 2022-06 · on “Classified specs leaked on War Thunder forum for third time”
>And think that Trump wanted USA to leave NATO. Talk about russian assets.. Speaking of Russian assets, there are still people that say that Merkel was always against German dependence on Russian gas but could not do anything about it. For 16 years! There is more "evidence" that Merkel is a long-term Russian intelligence asset, recruited from her youth in East Germany,[1] than that of Trump being the same. One guess on which claim is incessantly repeated by the bien-pensants of the chattering classes. Bonus: Trump and Stoltenberg argue on camera (< [this video] >). Who turned out to be right? Who turned out to completely, totally, 100% wrong? [1] Something else never talked about is how her paren
Cites TMWNN · 2022-06 · on “US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease food crisis”
>I remember that on TV Trump was telling German chancellor that they should seek energy sources outside of Russia, and the media was mocking him for being populist or for being anti globalization (or for being paranoid as Russian would need buyers? I can't remember exactly). Is the orange man so bad that whatever he touches is a taboo? Is there any truth in what he does, and the executive branch can be less political but focus more on execution? Trump and Jens Stoltenberg of NATO argue on camera (< [this video] >). Who turned out to be right? Who turned out to completely, totally, 100% wrong?
Cites TMWNN · 2022-06 · on “US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease food crisis”
>> Pushing NATO members to meet their defense spending obligations ended up being damn-near prescient >This was not “pushing” so much as “ineffective trash talking”. Trump and Stoltenberg argue on camera (< [this video] >). Who turned out to be right? Who turned out to completely, totally, 100% wrong? If Trump was so bad for NATO and Ukraine's defense, why didn't the current war didn't begin in 2017-2020? Let me guess: You think that the current state of the Ukrainian military (in terms of training and weaponry) that enabled it to survive the initial Russian invasion in February when few believed it could, somehow magically began in January 2021. It is a fact that the Trump administration continu
Cites TMWNN · 2022-06 · on “US quietly urges more use of Russia fertilizer to ease food crisis”
>If by diplomacy you mean kowtowing to everything Russia does, I'm not sure that's much better. Trump and Stoltenberg argue on camera (< [this video] >). Who turned out to be right? Who turned out to completely, totally, 100% wrong?
Cites TMWNN · 2022-06 · on “TikTok updated privacy policy to collect faceprints and voiceprints (2021)”
Trump proven right yet again. Another example: Trump and Stoltenberg argue on camera (< [this video] >). Who turned out to be right about NATO and Russia? Who turned out to completely, totally, 100% wrong?