Clay Shirky on Love, Internet Style
Why Hacker News recommends it
HN people cite it for the Ise shrine metaphor, that function rather than original material defines identity.
What it is
A short Supernova 2007 provocation in which Clay Shirky uses a 1300-year-old Japanese shrine, rebuilt periodically, as a metaphor for how networks change business and collective creativity.
Recommended by 0 HN commenters across 0 different months, 2009 to 2024.
What Hacker News said
Cites saikat · 2009-03 · on “On Sushi and Tsukiji”
"The little guy with the big knife is Tsunenori Iida. He speaks not as an individual but as an emanation, the present voice, of the generations whose blood flows in him and who held the long knife in lifetimes before him, just as he speaks of Masahisa as if he were the same Masahisa who wrought the first samurai sword, in the days of dark mist. Thus it is that he tells me he's been here since 1861, during the Tokugawa shogunate, when this city, Tokyo, was still called Edo." Reminds me of the metaphor Clay Shirky uses in his "Love, Internet Style" ( [this video] ) speech. He talks about the Ise Shinto shrine, which the Japanese claim to be 1300 years old even though the building itself is rebuilt
Cites rgrieselhuber · 2009-04 · on “How To Live Forever”
Reminded me of Ise Shrine ( [LINK] ) and also Shirky's reference to it ( [this video] ). The point there is that function is also a meaningful definition of is-ness. Besides, aren't all of the cells in a human body replaced every x years already?
Cites b2gills · 2020-04 · on “Most(ly dead) Influential Programming Languages”
You do realize that comes from english right? if $you-are-hungry { make-a-sandwich() } make-a-sandwich() if $you-are-hungry; If you remove all of the non-letter characters, you are left with very understandable english sentences. if you are hungry make a sandwich make a sandwich if you are hungry So unless english is a second language to you, it should be fairly easy to understand. If you pay attention to how people use those different forms in english, you will also notice that the infix form of “if” tends to be used for simple short sentences. Which is exactly how I use it in Perl and Raku. sub factorial ( UInt $n ){ return 1 if $n == 0; return 1 if $n == 1; return $n * factorial($n - 1) }
Cites vvanpo · 2024-03 · on “Your customers hate MVPs. Make a SLC instead (2017)”
I always thought the "made with love" taglines were inspired by the same Clay Shirky talk: [this video]