Web 2.0 Expo NY: Clay Shirky (shirky.com) It's Not Information Overload. It's Filter Failure.

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN invokes it as a reframing of the information overload problem, often when discussing content filtering, tagging and curation.

What it is

Clay Shirky argues at Web 2.0 Expo NY that the problem online is not information overload but filter failure. He says the real challenge is building better ways to filter and organize what we see.

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Recommends pkghost · 2010-09 · on “How to disconnect from your online life”

yay for clay and the middle way. he reminds me of uncle ben: "with great power comes great responsibility." he has a similarly level response to the problem of information overload (instead, filter failure): [this video]

Recommends enkiv2 · 2018-04 · on “Ask HN: What is your favourite tech talk?”

Ted Nelson's Computers for Cynics probably doesn't contain technical information that's new to any of you, but Ted has a knack for reframing things in ways that make the arbitrariness of certain historical decisions clear: [LINK] On the subject of hypertext, The Web That Wasn't gives a nice history of the idea (for anybody who thinks it starts with TBL -- surprisingly many people!): [LINK] Another reframing-oriented talk is Clay Shirky's "It's not information overload, it's filter failure", which ultimately leads to Shirky suggesting the kinds of user-oriented filtering features that Mastodon has implemented: [this video] At the intersection of neurology and information science, Peter Watts alway

Cites malandrew · 2012-01 · on “Ask HN: Can we add tags to submissions? ”

Tagging is useful for a lot more than just finding old stuff on a topic. It's massively valuable for filtering new stuff and community management. A lot of the problems with the devolution in HN could be resolved by implementing a few common tags like, 'startups', 'programming', 'political', 'current_events', 'design' and then having different thresholds for each tag to reach the front page. IMHO, the number of votes to reach the front page for a political story should be much higher than one that is about programming. I think most would agree. With tagging pg would be able to figure out if one tag is getting out of hand and squelch it temporarily or even permanently. As the community has gr

Cites FullstakBlogger · 2024-08 · on “Show HN: If YouTube had actual channels”

> At some level we're tacitly acknowledging that the vast ocean of content and complexity we've created is beyond what is desirable or even healthy to effectively evaluate. I don't think there's enough useful and organized information to evaluate. There's no reason for everyone to be stuck in a vast ocean of content labeled with a handful of vague categories, except that that's just the way that someone decided to make it. If I want to figure out if I want to try a game, I can go to steam and watch a trailer, look at the tags, and still have no idea if the game is worth playing. How do I make a decision? If I just watch 3 minutes of a lets play, or a live stream, I can get an idea of what th