Propaganda Games: Sesame Credit - The True Danger of Gamification - Extra Credits

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Recommends pdkl95 · 2015-12 · on “"Free Basics" - Myths and Facts”

> anti-free-basics mindset Ahh, the usual attempt to create factions. > Facebook isn't stopping anyone from providing internet access anywhere. The very idea of "free basics" is about normalizing the idea that Facebook can prevent who people can access. Yes, other providers already exist (removing any need for "free basics"), which is why Facebook is abusing their position as a social network to manipulate people into supporting their plan. They can do this because being a gatekeeper of social interaction is one of the most powerful political tools known to man. > And they certainly don't gain this power by providing free basics. If you read any of the other threads on this topic, you will f

Recommends samstave · 2016-01 · on “China Shows How Surveillance Leads to Intimidation and Software Censorship”

Check out this nightmare of a system China is implementing to use gamification to control populations: [this video]

Recommends joeyespo · 2016-01 · on “Why privacy is important, and having “nothing to hide” is irrelevant”

I'm sure there are more direct examples, but I watched a video about Sesame Credit recently and it paints a rather dystopian picture of what's possible when you mix surveillance and gamification. [this video]

Recommends heroprotagonist · 2017-11 · on “Tencent’s Just Getting Started on Online Advertising”

Beyond that, consider what Tencent are doing with a "social credit score" to compete with Alibaba's Sesame Credit. It will be scary when these systems eventually migrate to or evolve in the US. Tencent social credit: * [LINK] Sesame Credit video from Extra Credits (almost a couple years old now, but most easily-engaged piece I've seen on implications of social credit): * [this video]

Recommends maltalex · 2017-12 · on “Inside China's Vast New Experiment in Social Ranking”

Extra Credits made a video about Sesame Credit a couple of years ago. It's 7.5 minutes long, and well worth the watch: [this video] Being a game design channel, they discuss Sesame Credit as obedience to the party, gamified.

Recommends hagbardceline · 2018-02 · on “Preparing for Malicious Uses of AI”

I believe much of this can be dealt with, if we start RIGHT NOW to address a serious issue in our systems - the lack of a way to represent Morals and Ethics (the When and the Why) in the systems we are building. This needs to provide important input to, and thus shape the DIKW(D) pyramid. I've been doing some work with the IEEE on this - and I'm looking here on ycombinator to get some real-world feeedback on what people are thinking and concerned about. I have some (personal) ideas that might work to address the concerns I'm seeing. { NOTE Some of this is taken from a previous post I wrote (but kinda missed the thread developing, I was late I don't think anyone read it). It is useful for thi

Recommends viraptor · 2018-04 · on “China’s experiment in ranking and monitoring citizens has started”

There's an interesting video from Extra Credits about this. It's based on early announcements and repeats some of the popular points, but it addresses the gamification and social pressure side of the issue which I haven't seen discussed that much elsewhere. I recommend watching: [this video]

Cites pdkl95 · 2015-12 · on “Facebook is misleading Indians with its full-page ads about Free Basics”

> convince you that all your friends are supporting their proposals This is a serious problem, because China already showed us the end game of this tactic with Sesame Credit. [this video]