Self-Parking cars Tesla v Audi v Ford v BMW - test and comparison - are they any good?
Why Hacker News recommends it
Cited repeatedly in Tesla threads as concrete side-by-side evidence that Tesla's self-parking lags other manufacturers, undercutting its full self-driving claims.
What it is
A hands-on comparison of self-parking systems on a Tesla Model S and 3 (including AP1 vs AP2), an Audi e-tron GT, a Ford Mustang Mach-E and a BMW i4 M50. It tests both parallel and perpendicular parking and finds Tesla's newer vision-based parking noticeably weaker than the others.
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What Hacker News said
Cites inferiorhuman · 2023-02 · on “Apple signs union agreement for Glasgow Apple Store staff”
You spent your whole comment focusing on their self driving claims while ignoring the rest of the company. The rest of the company? You mean the senior management that lord elno raided in an attempt to prop up Twitter? The VW ID4 has numerous complaints about their software and reliability. [this video] [LINK] [LINK] That's some impressive software.
Critical clouddrover · 2022-08 · on “Tesla wants videos of its cars running over child-sized dummies taken down”
This is true to form. Musk recently told a Tesla owner to stop complaining about "full self-driving" not working very well. Musk plainly believes in free speech for himself, but not for others: [LINK] The reality is Tesla is not competitive with other manufacturers on simple tests like self parking: [this video] Instead of running around trying to suppress "bad press", Tesla should focus on making their cars better.
Critical clouddrover · 2022-08 · on “California votes to ban new gas car sales by 2035”
By autonomy you might mean range or autonomous driving. Tesla doesn't lead in range: [LINK] Tesla struggles with FSP (full self-parking): [this video] Tesla doesn't take liability for its semi-autonomous driving, whereas Mercedes does: [LINK] There are many areas Tesla doesn't lead.
Critical microtherion · 2022-09 · on “Rolls Royce Ends Boom Supersonic Partnership”
Tesla certainly delivers cars. But there are parts of it that are quite Theranesque, especially the self driving: * Re-sell third party products for a while ("Until our own offering is ready"). If the recently posted self parking video is to be believed, the in-house products are still not on par with the third party predecessors: [this video] * Pre-sell your product years before it's ready. * Aggressively suppress internal and external criticism. * Avoid objective evaluations of your product.
Critical dagmx · 2022-10 · on “Tesla Vision Update: Replacing Ultrasonic Sensors with Tesla Vision”
Tesla is probably the WORST at automatic parking. Here’s a comparison against some other competitors. [this video] My own model Y has maybe successfully automatically parked 2/10 times. Most of my friends and coworkers have similarly low success rates.
Critical clouddrover · 2022-10 · on “Tesla faces U.S. criminal probe over self-driving claims”
> Everything Tesla/SpaceX has done has been: 1)Light years above the competition Here are some EVs trying to park themselves: [this video] The Teslas perform the worst. Tesla is yet to achieve full self-parking, never mind full self-driving.
Critical formerly_proven · 2022-10 · on “Tesla faces U.S. criminal probe over self-driving claims”
There's a hilarious video where you can see a modern Tesla utterly failing at parking while an old Tesla with mobileye works just fine [this video]
Critical clouddrover · 2022-10 · on “Why Tesla removed radar and ultrasonic sensors [video]”
> You're not asking the automation to walk Tesla should aim for parking first. Teslas do poorly at self parking: [this video]