英特尔Lunar Lake深度评测:轻薄本有救了!

极客湾Geekerwan · 197K views · 2024 · 21:52

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HN uses it as a benchmark source in debates over whether x86 can match Apple Silicon efficiency, particularly the Lunar Lake vs M3 comparison.

What it is

Geekerwan's Chinese-language review of Intel's Lunar Lake lightweight laptop chip, covering performance, perf-per-watt curves and battery life benchmarks. It tests whether x86 can compete on efficiency.

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Recommends txrx0000 · 2025-08 · on “Ask HN: Why hasn't x86 caught up with Apple M series?”

There is an M-series competitor from Intel that was released last year, codename Lunar Lake. Here's a video about it. Skip to 4:55 for battery life benchmarks. [this video]

Cites aurareturn · 2024-10 · on “AMD EPYC Turin delivers better performance/power efficiency than AmpereOne”

M3 on the same N3B node is 2-3x more efficient than Lunar Lake. M3 is also straight up faster. Qualcomm’s X Elite matches or exceeds Intel Lunar Lake on an older N4P node in efficiency and speed. Sources: [LINK] [this video]

Cites aurareturn · 2024-10 · on “AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux”

No, it’s the other way around. Intel has generally caught up in idle power draw but is still severely behind in performance per watt. [LINK] [this video]

Cites zipityzi · 2025-08 · on “Ask HN: Why hasn't x86 caught up with Apple M series?”

This seems mostly misinformed. 1) Apple Silicon outperforms all laptop CPUs in the same power envelope on 1T on industry-standard tests: it's not predominantly due to "optimizing their software stack". SPECint, SPECfp, Geekbench, Cinebench, etc. all show major improvements. 2) x86 also heavily relies on micro-ops to greatly improve performance. This is not a "penalty" in any sense. 3) x86 is now six-wide, eight-wide, or nine-wide (with asterisks) for decode width on all major Intel & AMD cores. The myth of x86 being stuck on four-wide has been long disproven. 4) Large buffers, L1, L2, L3, caches, etc. are not exclusive to any CPU microarchitecture. Anyone can increase them—the question is, h

Cites zipityzi · 2025-08 · on “Ask HN: Why hasn't x86 caught up with Apple M series?”

It is likely the hardware effiency of their chips. Apple SoCs running industry-standard benchmarks still run very cool, yet still show dominant performance. The OS efficiency helps, but even under extreme stress tests like SPEC, the Apple SoCs dominate in perf & power. See Lunar Lake on TSMC N3B, 4+4, on-package DRAM versus the M3 on TSMC N3B, 4+4, on-package DRAM: [this video] The 258V (TSMC N3B) has a worse perf / W 1T curve than the Apple M1 (TSMC N5).

Cites txrx0000 · 2025-09 · on “AMD claims Arm ISA doesn't offer efficiency advantage over x86”

It's not the ISA. Modern Macbooks are power-efficient because they have: - RAM on package - PMIC power delivery - Better power management by OS Geekerwan investigated this a while ago, see: [LINK] [LINK] [this video] Intel and AMD have implemented these improvements with Lunar Lake and Strix Halo. You can buy an x86 laptop with Macbook-like efficiency right now if you know which SoCs to pick. edit: Correction. I looked at the die image of Strix Halo and thought it looked like it had on-package RAM. It does not. It doesn't use PMIC either. Lunar Lake is the only Apple M-series competitor on x86 at the moment.

Cites txrx0000 · 2025-09 · on “AMD claims Arm ISA doesn't offer efficiency advantage over x86”

I suspect the throttling behavior has to more do with the power settings used during testing or OEM tuning on specific models. [this video] In this video, they show the perf/watt curves at 8:30. And they show the on-battery vs on-wall performance at 18:35 across a wide variety of benchmarks, not just Geekbench. They used a Lenovo YOGA Air 15 on Window 11's "Balanced" power plan for their tests. The narrator specifically noted the Macbook-like on-battery performance.