Why I deleted GrapheneOS

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Strong rec bernoufakis · 2025-07 · on “Graphene OS: a security-enhanced Android build”

> It's objectively clear though, that this is a very low quality video full of baseless speculation, and severely lacking any technical understanding and knowledge. "Baseless" could not be further away from the truth. You literally have the GOS developer messages coming in live while he rehashes frivolous accusations and threatening to exposing him. To claim objectivity, when you seem to cherry pick the parts of the video that would (loosely) fit your narrative. Where is your evidence that Rossmann is in anyway associated to harassment campaign against the project ? > This is exactly the same as going to a restaurant, having an argument with the owner, and then claiming that they might be pu

Cites sremani · 2023-05 · on “Daniel Micay publicly steps down from GrapheneOS”

I am not sure, but some context about Daniel's failings in communication may have contributed. The following is link to Louis Rossmann's video about his interaction with Daniel published today. [this video] This is speculation of course on my part and I do not have any evidence connecting the video with the event itself.

Cites joemazerino · 2023-05 · on “Daniel Micay publicly steps down from GrapheneOS”

I completely understand where Louis Rossman is coming from. [1] Daniel does not apologize for anything he says or does and refuses to acknowledge any wrongdoing. He still refuses to acknowledge that how he responded to Louis was wrong. He hops on every thread of GrapheneOS and regularly accuses everyone of being sockpuppets and trolls. [2] He has accused me of being a Techlore and CalyxOS troll numerous times. Worst still, his community are full of psychophants that enable his abusive behavior. They refuse to see him or his outbursts as negative. They routinely collaborate to downvote comments and raid rooms to manage the narrative which I find to be underhanded. I was an early Copperhead cu

Cites neom · 2023-06 · on “Lead Developer Leaves GrapheneOS Due to Harassment Including Swatting”

I'd never heard of GrapheneOS till 15 minutes ago. I couldn't understand why someone would randomly start swatting an OSS project maintainer.. googling around a bit lead me to this Louis Rossmann video: [this video] Also this: [LINK] Yikes. Hope this Daniel guy can get some help and find some peace, poor dude seems incredibly unstable. :(

Cites jacooper · 2023-06 · on “Lead Developer Leaves GrapheneOS Due to Harassment Including Swatting”

Finally. Daniel created a great project, then did everything to make people not use it. Any criticism, harassment You don't believe his story with copperhead?, Harassment. And so on. You can already see his community fans with new accounts on HN saying that Louis conspired against Daniel, he didn't need to do anything , Daniel did this to himself. For a background on this, have a look in louis's latest video [this video]

Cites ColoursofOSINT · 2023-10 · on “Pixel 8 Pro”

I use GrapheneOS, and I've donated to its development. To say that "None of the claims are true" and that they are "baseless" is incorrect. Louis Rossman was a supporter of the project until he and Daniel had a failing out in which Daniel behaved inappropriately [1], all over a Youtube comment. There's proof for that and other claims [2, 4, 5]. Daniel can be a talented developer, privacy advocate and asshole at the same time. It's sad to see him (and others, like yourself) say stuff like "examine the baseless claims", without providing any sources. After all the drama with Calyxos, Techlore, Louis Rossmann etc, at some point one has to notice a pattern of behavior. 1: [this video] 2: [LINK] 3: [L

Cites jchw · 2023-11 · on “Enable MTE on Pixel 8”

Speaking of which, what ever happened with all of the kerfuffle going on around GrapheneOS leadership, anyway? I remember Louis Rossmann posting a video[1] that felt pretty damning regarding project leadership, especially given that he seemed to be implicated in the mess for almost no reason at all. In general I wouldn't give a good god damn about drama, but I'll admit it: it's ALREADY hard to trust operating systems, and especially security software, that's effectively made by effectively random strangers on the Internet, but much worse so if it's unclear they wouldn't be willing to abuse their position. Daniel Micay (aka strcat on here I believe) apparently announced they were stepping dow

Cites summm · 2023-11 · on “DDG founder says Google's phone, manufacturing partnerships thwart competition”

The usual: Voice some opinion that doesn't exactly match theirs, Ina friendly way, get insulted, get accused to be part of another group that allegedly is conspiring to harm them... Later found this is apparently a pattern and happened to others in a very similar way, e.g. [this video]