A CONSERVATIVE solution to global warming (Part 1)

potholer54 · 277K views · 2018 · 21:33

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Why Hacker News recommends it

HN users recommend it as a model of communicating climate science to conservative and libertarian audiences without alienating them.

What it is

Potholer54 presents the climate science case and a market-oriented, conservative-friendly approach to addressing global warming, with sources listed. It is part one of a two-part series.

Recommended by 3 HN commenters across 5 different months, 2019 to 2022.

What Hacker News said

Strong rec ZeroGravitas · 2019-10 · on “The Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement (2013)”

It's always mildly terrifying reading climate change related stories on Hacker News as all the hyper-logical libertarians do their best to portray accepted science as a global conspiracy of hippies and communists. If that kind of thing describes you, then I encourage you to check out this YouTube channel, which debunks all the nonsense with a focus on the kind of person who frequents Hacker News, i.e. likely nerdy and libertarian and more likely to be convinced by a link to a research paper or Margaret Thatcher's opinion than a picture of a cute animal in distress: A Conservative solution to climate change (part 1): [this video] Are electric cars really green: [LINK] He hopefully talks your langu

Strong rec ZeroGravitas · 2019-11 · on “Scientists’ warnings about climate change have intensified”

If you're genuinely interested in escaping your info bubble then I've been recommending this video as a quick intro for people who don't feel at home with left wing solutions to climate change. Part of its about climate change denial, but it covers the attacks made (often by the same people) on the viability of renewables too and your pont about the solution not existing yet: [this video] And yes, climate change deniers are the real problem, not people who are irrationally scared of nuclear. Nuclear is just one solution, and as of today it's not a cost effective one. We could have been building nukes for a while but what was the point in investing so much money in what was just a big hoax anyway?

Strong rec Hammershaft · 2020-09 · on “Climate Disruption Is Now Locked In. The Next Moves Will Be Crucial”

At this point the greatest hurdle to action on climate change is Republican obstruction backed by the apathy of the conservative base. I regularly see conservatives on /r/conservative use the lack of burn control and a rise in arson cases as talking points to dismiss these wildfires entirely. If an article like this is going to present a strong argument for climate action that can win over conservatives it will need to be scientifically precise and grapple specifically with conservative talking points. This NYT article did not even come close to meeting that bar, it confidently attributed complex multi factor phenomenon entirely to climate change without creating the groundwork of data & evi

Strong rec Hammershaft · 2020-09 · on “Climate Disruption Is Now Locked In. The Next Moves Will Be Crucial”

At this point the greatest hurdle to action on climate change is Republican obstruction backed by the apathy of the conservative base. I regularly see conservatives on /r/conservative use the lack of burn control and a rise in arson cases as talking points to dismiss these wildfires entirely. If an article like this is going to present a strong argument for climate action that can win over conservatives it will need to be scientifically precise and grapple specifically with conservative talking points. This NYT article did not even come close to meeting that bar, it confidently attributed complex multi factor phenomenon entirely to climate change without creating the groundwork of data & evi

Recommends ZeroGravitas · 2019-10 · on “Antarctic ice cliffs may not contribute to sea-level rise as much as predicted”

This YouTube channel from a former oil and gas surveying geologist and technology columnist does a good job of conveying the science while taking care not to spook people who are on the right of the political spectrum (like he is) and have absorbed too much misinformation: [this video]

Recommends BregorMarRian · 2019-10 · on “Ask HN: What's a promising area to work on?”

By the way, Bjørn Lomborg is an unreliable and often misleading source. Why? See for yourself multiple examples of quality analysis with actual scientific sources. Highly recommended: [1] [LINK] [2] [LINK] And that's analysis of Bjørn Lomborg's work by those who actively support pragmatic, cost-effective, and often 'conservative' solutions to environmental problems and climate change. Examples: [3] [this video] [4] [LINK]

Recommends Hammershaft · 2021-07 · on “Time to assume that health research is fraudulent until proven otherwise?”

Have you considered the flipside, which has much more evidence for it, that denialism is being promoted by institutions and speakers who are by proxy funded by the fossil fuel industry, which is one of the largest industries on earth? I really reccomend, if you want a level headed, conservative, independent look at the issue that you check out some of these videos by Potholer54, a retired geologist and science reporter. [LINK] [LINK] [this video]

Recommends ZeroGravitas · 2022-11 · on “How an early oil industry study became key in climate lawsuits”

In particular the two part video here is good as a summary: A CONSERVATIVE solution to global warming (Part 1) [this video] Many of the other older ones are referring to old controversies, though I see the 14 year old one still has new comments from this year claiming it's all lies.