Tesla Autopilot Failing (No Warnings) Where There Was A Fatal Car Accident W Model X

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Cites nopriorarrests · 2018-04 · on “Tesla owner recreates fatal Autopilot crash, nearly crashes as well”

This article is about old video, already discussed here in detail. I thought it could be about a new one. So, couple of hours ago another video surfaced on /r/teslamotors, filmed at original location of Model X crash, with very detailed slow-motion. And autopilot acts (presumably) the same way as on Model X, trying to drive the car into solid obstacle. Video: [this video] Thread: [LINK]

Cites kchhina · 2018-06 · on “NTSB: Autopilot steered Tesla car toward traffic barrier before deadly crash”

It should be fairly easy to detect a chevron sign with yellow and black stripes [0] and take evasive measures to slow down, brake heavily or change lanes. From my understanding of CNN neural networks it's a fairly simple classification problem (that A. Karpathy researched, and taught at Stanford; and he's now leading the AI/vision team at Tesla). Looking at the video of the guy that tried that same route again, it looks like the sun was straight ahead (see starting 37th second of video [1]), and I am wondering if the camera had an issue identifying the sign due to the glare from the sun. Do we know if this problem has been fixed now? Can the chevron be identified at the same location by othe

Cites toomuchtodo · 2020-02 · on “Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot”

From previous reporting on this incident in 2018: > “The driver had received several visual and one audible hands-on warning earlier in the drive and the driver’s hands were not detected on the wheel for six seconds prior to the collision,” Tesla said. “The driver had about five seconds and 150 meters of unobstructed view of the concrete divider with the crushed crash attenuator, but the vehicle logs show that no action was taken.” [LINK] Also, the safety barrier that would've reduced the force of the impact had not been replaced after a recent accident just days before. > Earlier this week, Tesla said the divider was missing a safety barrier designed to reduce the impact of a crash. The aut

Critical unityByFreedom · 2018-04 · on “Autonomous braking: 'The most significant development since the safety belt'”

> Would the Volvo system have picked up and appropriately responded to the gore point involved in the recent fatal Tesla crash? I'd rather ask, would the Volvo system steer towards the barrier like Tesla's AP may have done [1] [2]? "IIHS research shows that AEB systems meeting the commitment would reduce rear-end crashes by 40 percent." [3] AEB on its own may save lives. Whether autosteer systems do or not is an open question. [1] [this video] [2] [LINK] [3] [LINK]

Critical walrus01 · 2018-06 · on “NTSB: Autopilot steered Tesla car toward traffic barrier before deadly crash”

This guy tested it at the EXACT same location with tesla autopilot. The Tesla starts steering directly into the barrier before he corrects it. [this video]

Critical wlesieutre · 2019-07 · on “Tesla loses three vice presidents in a week”

Because they're more honest about the "move fast and drive into a concrete barrier" problems? IMO's autopilot'ss scariest incident is where it drove into a barrier between the exit lane and the highway. [LINK] Other drivers were able to reproduce the same behavior, in which the car appears to think that the space between the exit and the highway is a traffic lane that it should follow. This will dump you straight into a wall at highway speeds. [this video] Tesla fixed it. Then six months later the same behavior is back: [LINK] How do you trust a system like this when any software update could turn the car suicidal with you in it? Yeah, it's also incidents where it saved drivers from a collision w

Critical sorenjan · 2021-05 · on “Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety features”

I've seen several videos of Tesla's autopilot getting confused by road markings and steering towards obstacles as a result. Using fewer sensors gives you less information, which seems like a bad idea for something as critical and difficult as automated driving on public roads. It's strange that Tesla's been getting away with unmet promises and dangerous behavior for years now. [this video] [LINK] [LINK] [LINK] [LINK] [LINK]